
addsf345
09-29 01:14 PM
SORRY BROTHER, I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU AND YOUR WAYS of TRYING TO HURT REPUTATION OF SOME otherwise better AIRLINE.
we have some really bad bad exp with lufthansa last year. same way my coworker had a horror story with northwest airlines. There were some IV thread of bad treatment of indians by airfrance at paris. Things can go bad. It shouldn't, but it does. Doesn't mean you not only make a bad image forever in your mind and try to spread that on others. With your theory, all airlines are bad and no one should fly ever.
While I never flew with airindia so far (planning to fly airindia next year), my parents did and they had a wonderful experience, food and courtsey.
I have full sympathy with your aged in laws. They do deserve a better service, esp with a baby travelling with them. I pray that now onwards, they never face such troubles. Smile and be positive.
Experience with Air India
It is with great shame I bring out this piece to you about how Air India is using the "India" tag by cheating its innocent citizens and show its ugly real face. I have never seen anything so unprofessional and have no hesitation to say they are the worst airline in the world.
Passengers:
Father-in-Law (FIL) and Mother-in-Law with baby
My in-laws were returning to India via Air India on September 24th from EWR (Newark, NJ) airport after brief US visit.
Ticketing Experience:
We started the whole process 1 month earlier and contacted Air India (1800 223 7776) about the booking. First we got an answer saying that the class we booked in is full and we have to pay another 40$ per person for another segment. For that we had to call another AI booking# and after 40 mins on the call could reach an agent. We
got new confirmation #s and when asked for the basinet seat was told they could not see the seats and have a special request sent and asked me to call back in 3 days to confirm. We called like 5-6 times and everytime were told they cannot view the seats and when asked to see for seats in another segment or another date, we were told to
re-book again and then ask for seats. How on earth could an airline not see available seats in its aircraft.They have taken customer service to new digraceful level.I roped in my brother in law to go to AI office in Newark and try with an agent directly. Even after
going for 2-3 times directly to the AI office, my BIL failed to secure us the seats. After all the tries we were ultimately told to go to the Airport sooner on the travel date so we can get a basinet seat.
Journey Day:
On the date of the travel in-laws reached at 2:00 PM at the airport in hopes that they will get a basinet seat. The agent gave them a hard time and we had to go back n forth 2-3 times for getting the seats confirmed and have in-laws and baby seated together. I think the whole ticketing at the aiport is being handled by a third party who
are doing a horrible job. My FIL in the meanwhile buys a gift at the custom notified shops at EWR.The flight which was to depart at 6: 20 PM was ready for take off when all of a sudden the pilot says there is a technical problem (God knows what would have happened had the flight taken off). The flight returns to the gate and the passengers are told to wait until they fix the problem. They wait for 2 hours and are asked to then wait in the
boarding area until they really look into the technical problem. (In the meanwhile we hear on Indian TV channels that there is a Pilot strike going on in AI regarding Pilot pay package which adds to our tension). The Air India (airindia.com) website is for show off only with few flight images and had no flight status. We immediately call the AI office in Newark who have no-clue what is going on. When I asked the problem they said it is confidential and cannot be told:(. Eventually all the passengers are told that the flight has been
cancelled for the day and should return the next day and all the checked in baggage will be returned. My poor in-laws with baby had to return back and reached home at 3:00 AM in the morning.
The next day:
The next day the whole scene repeats again and we had to deal with the irritable AI ticket agents who say they are missing something at their whim. We were able to get a basinet seat this time also and happy we were all set for the 6:20 PM flight. This time we gave my FIL a pre-paid cell phone. The same thing repeats again. This time they wait in the boarding area and are told that the pilots have gone to repair the earlier (Sep 24) flight which had an issue. They wait patiently until 10:15 PM. We were all tensed here
and were expecting the flight to be cancelled this day also. No body from AI was available this day to pick-up and explain what is happening. The call re-directs to India who have no idea about the flight status in US. My FIL eventually calls at 10:30 PM and said that they will be boarding soon.
Frankfurt stop:
The flight has a stop at Franfurt and the passengers were asked to go to another terminal
for boarding the same aircraft. They had to go through the security check again and to my FIL's horror, the gift he bought at EWR duty free shop was not allowed and removed. When he showed the receipt they said that the gift has been bought in
US and cannot be allawed into the aircraft. :(Air India where are you and what a Maharaja experience.
Worst website ever:
In the mean while we keep checking the AI web site which I think is one of the worst web sites I have ever been to. I think that this contract is also being awarded to some third party with crores of tax payer money. we were looking for schedules of flight which departed on Sep 25 from Newark airport and here it shows th schedule of the 24th
flight.
Customer Service in Mumbai:
We tried to track the flight (if flightreached Mumbai) by calling AI desk in Mumbai. They had no idea and after repeated calls could reach an agent who made some research and
told that the flight has reached Mumbai and gave further schedule of the flight.
Flight reaches Hyderabad:
The flight reached Hyderabad after change of flight in Mumbai.
Luggage:
Some of the luggage was missing. To our horror the bags we got had stuff from some other people's bags. Please leave the luggage Air India.
Summary:
What a mess Air India. You have taken advantage of the "always yielding" Indians who prefer you for a home experience. Please remove the word "India" nd the "Maharaja" symbol as you are no longer fit for that.
we have some really bad bad exp with lufthansa last year. same way my coworker had a horror story with northwest airlines. There were some IV thread of bad treatment of indians by airfrance at paris. Things can go bad. It shouldn't, but it does. Doesn't mean you not only make a bad image forever in your mind and try to spread that on others. With your theory, all airlines are bad and no one should fly ever.
While I never flew with airindia so far (planning to fly airindia next year), my parents did and they had a wonderful experience, food and courtsey.
I have full sympathy with your aged in laws. They do deserve a better service, esp with a baby travelling with them. I pray that now onwards, they never face such troubles. Smile and be positive.
Experience with Air India
It is with great shame I bring out this piece to you about how Air India is using the "India" tag by cheating its innocent citizens and show its ugly real face. I have never seen anything so unprofessional and have no hesitation to say they are the worst airline in the world.
Passengers:
Father-in-Law (FIL) and Mother-in-Law with baby
My in-laws were returning to India via Air India on September 24th from EWR (Newark, NJ) airport after brief US visit.
Ticketing Experience:
We started the whole process 1 month earlier and contacted Air India (1800 223 7776) about the booking. First we got an answer saying that the class we booked in is full and we have to pay another 40$ per person for another segment. For that we had to call another AI booking# and after 40 mins on the call could reach an agent. We
got new confirmation #s and when asked for the basinet seat was told they could not see the seats and have a special request sent and asked me to call back in 3 days to confirm. We called like 5-6 times and everytime were told they cannot view the seats and when asked to see for seats in another segment or another date, we were told to
re-book again and then ask for seats. How on earth could an airline not see available seats in its aircraft.They have taken customer service to new digraceful level.I roped in my brother in law to go to AI office in Newark and try with an agent directly. Even after
going for 2-3 times directly to the AI office, my BIL failed to secure us the seats. After all the tries we were ultimately told to go to the Airport sooner on the travel date so we can get a basinet seat.
Journey Day:
On the date of the travel in-laws reached at 2:00 PM at the airport in hopes that they will get a basinet seat. The agent gave them a hard time and we had to go back n forth 2-3 times for getting the seats confirmed and have in-laws and baby seated together. I think the whole ticketing at the aiport is being handled by a third party who
are doing a horrible job. My FIL in the meanwhile buys a gift at the custom notified shops at EWR.The flight which was to depart at 6: 20 PM was ready for take off when all of a sudden the pilot says there is a technical problem (God knows what would have happened had the flight taken off). The flight returns to the gate and the passengers are told to wait until they fix the problem. They wait for 2 hours and are asked to then wait in the
boarding area until they really look into the technical problem. (In the meanwhile we hear on Indian TV channels that there is a Pilot strike going on in AI regarding Pilot pay package which adds to our tension). The Air India (airindia.com) website is for show off only with few flight images and had no flight status. We immediately call the AI office in Newark who have no-clue what is going on. When I asked the problem they said it is confidential and cannot be told:(. Eventually all the passengers are told that the flight has been
cancelled for the day and should return the next day and all the checked in baggage will be returned. My poor in-laws with baby had to return back and reached home at 3:00 AM in the morning.
The next day:
The next day the whole scene repeats again and we had to deal with the irritable AI ticket agents who say they are missing something at their whim. We were able to get a basinet seat this time also and happy we were all set for the 6:20 PM flight. This time we gave my FIL a pre-paid cell phone. The same thing repeats again. This time they wait in the boarding area and are told that the pilots have gone to repair the earlier (Sep 24) flight which had an issue. They wait patiently until 10:15 PM. We were all tensed here
and were expecting the flight to be cancelled this day also. No body from AI was available this day to pick-up and explain what is happening. The call re-directs to India who have no idea about the flight status in US. My FIL eventually calls at 10:30 PM and said that they will be boarding soon.
Frankfurt stop:
The flight has a stop at Franfurt and the passengers were asked to go to another terminal
for boarding the same aircraft. They had to go through the security check again and to my FIL's horror, the gift he bought at EWR duty free shop was not allowed and removed. When he showed the receipt they said that the gift has been bought in
US and cannot be allawed into the aircraft. :(Air India where are you and what a Maharaja experience.
Worst website ever:
In the mean while we keep checking the AI web site which I think is one of the worst web sites I have ever been to. I think that this contract is also being awarded to some third party with crores of tax payer money. we were looking for schedules of flight which departed on Sep 25 from Newark airport and here it shows th schedule of the 24th
flight.
Customer Service in Mumbai:
We tried to track the flight (if flightreached Mumbai) by calling AI desk in Mumbai. They had no idea and after repeated calls could reach an agent who made some research and
told that the flight has reached Mumbai and gave further schedule of the flight.
Flight reaches Hyderabad:
The flight reached Hyderabad after change of flight in Mumbai.
Luggage:
Some of the luggage was missing. To our horror the bags we got had stuff from some other people's bags. Please leave the luggage Air India.
Summary:
What a mess Air India. You have taken advantage of the "always yielding" Indians who prefer you for a home experience. Please remove the word "India" nd the "Maharaja" symbol as you are no longer fit for that.
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austingc
05-18 10:24 AM
Last night I emailed to Texas senators and congressman and received response from all of them.
lost_in_migration
05-30 06:44 PM
On Thomas most of the amendments were ordered to "lie on the table". If these amendments are not considered most of the sponsors & co-sponsors of these amendments may not support the final bill. That would be a good thing for us. Blessing in disguise!!
According to thomas this amendment was ordered to "lie on the table". So there isn't much to celebrate:( :( :(
According to thomas this amendment was ordered to "lie on the table". So there isn't much to celebrate:( :( :(
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chmur
11-17 04:32 PM
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please be constructive in your role, we can use your energy and enthusiasm, but an attitude of engagement is critical rather than asking why iv core is not doing this or that.....
Thanks Paskal,
I will....and get some work done like setting up the IV-NE yahoogroups, crafting the initial pitch for nebraska members , and get some members recruited etc and will take it from there.
My only point is, this 1% of active members can politely direct others to state chapters , notwithstanding the frustrating attitude of some of the "Highly skilled"- arm chair critics.
Thanks
please be constructive in your role, we can use your energy and enthusiasm, but an attitude of engagement is critical rather than asking why iv core is not doing this or that.....
Thanks Paskal,
I will....and get some work done like setting up the IV-NE yahoogroups, crafting the initial pitch for nebraska members , and get some members recruited etc and will take it from there.
My only point is, this 1% of active members can politely direct others to state chapters , notwithstanding the frustrating attitude of some of the "Highly skilled"- arm chair critics.
Thanks
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chanduv23
10-15 09:57 AM
Mea Culpa. I'm the culprit here :).
I requested for the meeting close to weekend. It turned out some other new chapters were also in the same boat. Core put us together in the same call, which helped, as our issues are more or less the same. Timing was inconvenient for cagedcactus due to personal reasons. Yet he participated (which we should appreciate). Some veterans also nearly-missed the call as everything got finalized a few hours before the call.
Regarding nearby states, we can try to accomodate Indiana (IN) and Ohio (OH), and my be Wisconsin (WI), the states that border Michigan, that is if they already don't have an active chapter.
U guys look extra charged .. way to go, good luck
I requested for the meeting close to weekend. It turned out some other new chapters were also in the same boat. Core put us together in the same call, which helped, as our issues are more or less the same. Timing was inconvenient for cagedcactus due to personal reasons. Yet he participated (which we should appreciate). Some veterans also nearly-missed the call as everything got finalized a few hours before the call.
Regarding nearby states, we can try to accomodate Indiana (IN) and Ohio (OH), and my be Wisconsin (WI), the states that border Michigan, that is if they already don't have an active chapter.
U guys look extra charged .. way to go, good luck
grupak
06-24 03:10 PM
Not even took a mt, come on folks please call his office and request his support for the three bills.
Leave your name, number and the place you are calling from (they might forget to ask). This gives a more human face to the whole issue. Anonymous calls might not carry the same weight.
Leave your name, number and the place you are calling from (they might forget to ask). This gives a more human face to the whole issue. Anonymous calls might not carry the same weight.
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nik.patelc
09-30 09:34 PM
Dude you brought up the point of being a proud donor. Nobody gives a hoot if you donate or not.
You are doing it for yourself and not for humanity.
Get it right!
And the way you behave shows what kind of background you have (UP/Bihar)
So just grow up and learn how to respect others!!!
Arunmurthy, Please dont drag UP/Bihar. Bihari are proud indian too. I am not bihar but narrow minded guy like you talk all this nonsense. People from south may be educated, techy but very discrimating and hyprocrate. Most sound indian just hang out on their identity group and we all know if non south indian and south indian go to interview for tech job and person taking interview is from south, who gets job?
You are doing it for yourself and not for humanity.
Get it right!
And the way you behave shows what kind of background you have (UP/Bihar)
So just grow up and learn how to respect others!!!
Arunmurthy, Please dont drag UP/Bihar. Bihari are proud indian too. I am not bihar but narrow minded guy like you talk all this nonsense. People from south may be educated, techy but very discrimating and hyprocrate. Most sound indian just hang out on their identity group and we all know if non south indian and south indian go to interview for tech job and person taking interview is from south, who gets job?
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ilikekilo
02-26 09:51 AM
with the help of MA volunteers, was able to collect 27 more letters.
Mailed to the president today, and will be mailing IV soon.
GO IV GO.
TOGEHTER WE CAN.
I mailed 2 letters and somehow I dont see my name, i just want to make sure IV got my letters from Ohio
Mailed to the president today, and will be mailing IV soon.
GO IV GO.
TOGEHTER WE CAN.
I mailed 2 letters and somehow I dont see my name, i just want to make sure IV got my letters from Ohio
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H4_losing_hope
03-03 10:13 PM
will sent more.
Cheers for your efforts :)
Cheers for your efforts :)
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pmmo
10-19 12:36 PM
Sorry that I could not reply sooner. In this case, I went ahead and did an Info Pass appointment. The officer there went ahead and gave a 1-year temporary stamp and said he was ordering card production. This was in July and I am still waiting. My lawyer said "congrats"! No idea how to handle this going forward. What happened to your case?
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Macaca
09-15 09:05 PM
To feel today
what one felt yesterday
isn't to feel -
it's to remember today what was felt yesterday,
to be today's living corpse of
what yesterday was lived and lost
Fernando Pessoa, The Book of Disquiet
what one felt yesterday
isn't to feel -
it's to remember today what was felt yesterday,
to be today's living corpse of
what yesterday was lived and lost
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priderock
05-31 03:26 PM
http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/reference/b_three_sections_with_teasers/glossary.htm
I don't think it bodes well for anything that is sent to the Table. This Senate Language Glossary has what "motion to table" means, essentially something that senate does not want to Consider. This Amendment(1249) is said to have been ordered "to lie on the table" not sure if it is same as the motion to table. But, I think we should hope for an amendment that does not have a table associated with its status.
A MOTION TO TABLE, if adopted, permanently kills the pending matter. It also ends any further debate.used in House & Senate. (source : c-span)
Rule 11.9. Motion to lay on table(Source legis.state.la.us)
A. The motion to lay on the table shall be decided without debate.
B. When a bill or resolution is pending, an amendment to such bill or resolution may be laid on the table without prejudice to the bill or resolution then pending.
Source - Thomas:
LAY ON THE TABLE A motion to lay on the table a bill, resolution, amendment, point of order, appeal or another motion disposes of the question immediately and finally and adversely -- it kills it without a direct vote on the substance of the question. A motion to table is not debatable and is adopted by unanimous consent -- without objection -- or by majority vote. It is a "highly privileged motion" -- that is, in the order in which motions are given priority in the House, only a motion to adjourn has higher precedence than a motion to table a measure.
I don't think it bodes well for anything that is sent to the Table. This Senate Language Glossary has what "motion to table" means, essentially something that senate does not want to Consider. This Amendment(1249) is said to have been ordered "to lie on the table" not sure if it is same as the motion to table. But, I think we should hope for an amendment that does not have a table associated with its status.
A MOTION TO TABLE, if adopted, permanently kills the pending matter. It also ends any further debate.used in House & Senate. (source : c-span)
Rule 11.9. Motion to lay on table(Source legis.state.la.us)
A. The motion to lay on the table shall be decided without debate.
B. When a bill or resolution is pending, an amendment to such bill or resolution may be laid on the table without prejudice to the bill or resolution then pending.
Source - Thomas:
LAY ON THE TABLE A motion to lay on the table a bill, resolution, amendment, point of order, appeal or another motion disposes of the question immediately and finally and adversely -- it kills it without a direct vote on the substance of the question. A motion to table is not debatable and is adopted by unanimous consent -- without objection -- or by majority vote. It is a "highly privileged motion" -- that is, in the order in which motions are given priority in the House, only a motion to adjourn has higher precedence than a motion to table a measure.
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amitjoey
05-27 11:00 AM
Total now: $7,300
Target: $50,000
Target: $50,000
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eb3_nepa
03-08 04:10 PM
because for people from Aus, their spouses can work.
There is a different visa category for australians called E1, only THOSE ppl's spouses can work. If an australian is on an H1 his wife cannot work on an H4 either.
In that case you also have to argue, why H4's cant work but L2's can? :)
There is a different visa category for australians called E1, only THOSE ppl's spouses can work. If an australian is on an H1 his wife cannot work on an H4 either.
In that case you also have to argue, why H4's cant work but L2's can? :)
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NO_Free_Rider
07-27 01:56 PM
What is your agenda? Didn't you join IV to get your (selfish) GC or for world peace :D
Now, what about offensive messages? How did you get the red dot next to your name :p
Thirdly you are using IV site for your agenda. Instead of supporting IV you are creating your own selfish agenda and not listening to IV. I have seen lot of offensive messages by you guys. You guys celebrated when all of us got screwed
I do not support your agenda.
Now, what about offensive messages? How did you get the red dot next to your name :p
Thirdly you are using IV site for your agenda. Instead of supporting IV you are creating your own selfish agenda and not listening to IV. I have seen lot of offensive messages by you guys. You guys celebrated when all of us got screwed
I do not support your agenda.
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needhelp!
06-23 03:06 PM
That is great and is exactly what the doctor prescribed. Lets try and get the Congressman to make a positive decision. Every call counts!
I just called and spoke to a staff member at Lamar Smith's office. Apparently a lot of calls are being made :D. She knew why I was calling before I could tell her. I was told that the Rep. has not made a public stand on these bills yet. I told her that I would like the Representative to support these bills if and when they come to the floor.
Keep calling, guys!.
I just called and spoke to a staff member at Lamar Smith's office. Apparently a lot of calls are being made :D. She knew why I was calling before I could tell her. I was told that the Rep. has not made a public stand on these bills yet. I told her that I would like the Representative to support these bills if and when they come to the floor.
Keep calling, guys!.
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gsc999
09-19 10:59 PM
Campaign contribution is the lubricant oil of politics (all pun intended - big oil is the biggest contributor to both parties).
Strength of IV & the skilled immigrant community should translate to campaign dollars. If the skilled immigrant community is in powerful positions in big firms, they can influence company contributions. Same applies for companies (to be) founded by immigrants.
We need to put our money where our mouth is.
Sapota,
Thanks for your message. I just wanted to clarify that no IV member should contribute or volunteer for a lawmakers election efforts because it is illegal to do so. Only US citizens can do that. We can only influence indirectly.
Strength of IV & the skilled immigrant community should translate to campaign dollars. If the skilled immigrant community is in powerful positions in big firms, they can influence company contributions. Same applies for companies (to be) founded by immigrants.
We need to put our money where our mouth is.
Sapota,
Thanks for your message. I just wanted to clarify that no IV member should contribute or volunteer for a lawmakers election efforts because it is illegal to do so. Only US citizens can do that. We can only influence indirectly.
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gjoe
12-10 04:36 PM
The real reason people are members on this forum and not attending meetings is because they don't want really feel comfortable doing that.
The reason you have 25000+ membership on this forum because all those who are here are on their own will and they love visiting this forum for various reasons.
The core wants to work in a more personally interactive model were people meet in real. But the crowd in this forum are all internet users who signed up because this is all done through the internet. If we want to be more effective there should be more planning on this internet forum and group activites focussed towards IV goals on this forum. Shifting from the internet model would be failure in terms of the numbers which we really are looking for.
I thought this will happen. People will oppose the post and find faults in Logiclife instead of themselves. There are several people coming up with their 2 cent ideas on this thread asking what IV must do and plan. But none of them want to do that themselves.
I think this is the real reason for failure.
The reason you have 25000+ membership on this forum because all those who are here are on their own will and they love visiting this forum for various reasons.
The core wants to work in a more personally interactive model were people meet in real. But the crowd in this forum are all internet users who signed up because this is all done through the internet. If we want to be more effective there should be more planning on this internet forum and group activites focussed towards IV goals on this forum. Shifting from the internet model would be failure in terms of the numbers which we really are looking for.
I thought this will happen. People will oppose the post and find faults in Logiclife instead of themselves. There are several people coming up with their 2 cent ideas on this thread asking what IV must do and plan. But none of them want to do that themselves.
I think this is the real reason for failure.
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go_gc_way
06-14 08:26 AM
Yes. If your visa is current in July. Then you have whole July to apply. Even if you deliver on Sundays. but i have no idea whether they accept application on Sunday's..
Now with this bulletin, is it not dates are CURRENT for the entire month of July?
Can any one please explain, if August bulletin (say released on 10 or 12 th of July ) can change it. That is can August bulletin change PD effective July?
Now with this bulletin, is it not dates are CURRENT for the entire month of July?
Can any one please explain, if August bulletin (say released on 10 or 12 th of July ) can change it. That is can August bulletin change PD effective July?
anilsal
09-21 08:10 PM
and was operating at 40% output. It was "Airborne" tab in water every 3 hours. A fellow chapter person chose coffee and breakfast at Starbucks on the morning of the rally, I chose "Airborne".
But I kept my plans to attend as I booked my tickets (40 days in advance). I talked at the lawmakers's offices on two days non-stop for 20 minutes, occasionally flashing my handkerchief.
"WHERE THERE IS A WILL, THERE IS A WAY".
But I kept my plans to attend as I booked my tickets (40 days in advance). I talked at the lawmakers's offices on two days non-stop for 20 minutes, occasionally flashing my handkerchief.
"WHERE THERE IS A WILL, THERE IS A WAY".
m306m
05-01 02:57 PM
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